Bayliners production Models from 1975- 2011

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How many Bayliner models were made between 1975 and 2000?

Bayliner was at one time the largest pleasure boat builder in the world, and this is reflected in the quantity of models they built between 1975 and 2000. This is an interesting evolution of a manufacturer and how the industry has changed from the simple line in 1975 to the unbelievable list in 2001 where the number of models in production begins to fall off.

In 1975 Bayliner had 8 models in their line up, the 1700 mutiny, a 2150 Liberty Cuddy, 2- 2250 Santiago models, 2350 Nisqually bridge, 2550 Saratoga, 2750 Victorian bridge, and a 3050 Encounter Bridge. That is it, the 1975 line up for you with the largest boat a 30 ft bridge boat, my how things have changed.

In 1977 Bayliner adds three more models another 2350 Nisqually Express, 2750 second Victorian and a 4050 Bodega . The Bodega is the first Bayliner over 30 foot. This is the start year for what we know as the Bayliner Yacht line, (which has continued on in the Meridian Yachts).

Every year from this point forward there are going to be serious changes to the line up:

1975 Model Year

Start of production           Model                                            Year Discontinued
Start -1975- Bayliner 1700 Mutiny CD..................................End 1983
Start -1975-                2150 Liberty Cuddy.............................End 1983
Start -1975-                2250 Santiago CudSkagit ...................End 1980
Start -1975-                2250 Santiago Offshore.......................End 1983
Start -1975-                2350 Nisqually Command Bridge ......End 1980
Start -1975-                2550 Saratoga Off Shore.....................End 1981
Start -1975-                2750 Victorian Sunbridge....................End 1984
Start -1975-                3050 Encounter Bridge........................End 1981

1976 Model Year Changes

Start -1976- Bayliner same as 1975

1977 Model Year Changes

Start -1977- Bayliner 2350 Nisqually Express........End 1980
Start - 1977-               2750 Victorian Twin............End 1984
Start -1977-                4050 Bodega........................End 1984

1978 Model Year Changes

Start -1978- Bayliner 2850 Bounty C/B..........End 1980

1979 Model Year Changes

Start -1979- Bayliner 2550 Saritoga S/B M/C ....................End 1983
Start -1979-                2950 Encounter SB MC Exp............End 1983
Start -1979-                3050 Encounter Bridge.....................End 1980

1980 Model Year Changes

Start -1980- Bayliner 2050 Liberty Cuddy.........................End 1983
Start -1980-                2350 Monterey Cudd & Exp...........End 1982
Start -1980-                2350 Monterey S/B M/C.................End 1983
Start -1980-                2950 Encounter Bridge....................End 1983
Start -1980-                3250 Conquest SBMC.....................End 1987

1981 Model Year Changes

Start -1981- Bayliner 2270 Explorer................................End 1982
Start -1981-                2350 Cobra....................................End 1984
Start -1981-                2670 Explorer................................End 1983
Start -1981-                3270/3218 MY Sed Gas................End 1989
Start -1981-                3270/3218 MY Sed Diesel............End 1989

1982 Model Year Changes

Start -1982- Bayliner 1950 Capri Bowrider....................................End 1990
Start -1982-                2850 Contessa S/B M/C single....................End 1988
Start -1982-                2850 Contessa S/B M/C twin.......................End 1988
Start -1982-                2850 Contessa Sed C/B single......................End 1988
Start -1982-                2850 Contessa Sed C/B twin........................End 1988

1983 Model Year Changes

Start -1983- Bayliner 1650 Capri Bowrider.............................End 1987
Start -1983-                1952 Capri Cuddy.................................End 1990
Start -1983-                2150 Capri Bowrider.............................End 1990
Start -1983-                2155 Ciera 2150 S/B M/C.....................End 1990
Start -1983-                2160 Trophy Cuddy..............................End 1988
Start -1983-                2450 Ciera Sedan..................................End 1987
Start -1983-                2455/2450 Ciera S/B M/C.....................End 1990
Start -1983-                3888 Sed FBMCMY Gas......................End 1995
Start -1983-                3888 Sed FBMCYC Desiel...................End 1995

1984 Model Year Changes

Start -1984- Bayliner 1400 Capri Bowrider............................End 1988
Start -1984-                1600 Capri Bowrider............................End 1988
Start -1984-                1600 Capri Cuddy................................End 1987
Start -1984-                1710 Trophy Bass................................End 1990
Start -1984-                1900 Capri Bowrider...........................End 1990
Start -1984-                1902 Capri Cuddy...............................End 1990
Start -1894-                1910 1903 Trophy cons.......................End 1991
Start -1984-                2102&2110 Trophy Cuddy.................End 1990
Start -1984-                2103 Trophy Cen Con.........................End 1990
Start -1984-                2152 Capri Cuddy................................End 1990
Start -1984-                2460 Trophy Hdtp Cud........................End 1988
Start -1984-                2750 Ciera S/B M/C.............................End 1987
Start -1984-                2860 Trophy Cud Hdtp.........................End 1988
Start -1984-                4550/4518 Yacht...................................End 1988

1985 Model Year Changes

Start -1985- Bayliner 2550/2555 Ciera S/B M/C.........End 1988

1986 Model Year Changes

Start -1986- Bayliner 1804 Trophy Bass F&S.....................................End 1990
Start -1986-                2560 Trophy Comm Bridge..............................End 1989
Start -1986-                3450/3417 Tri Cabin Aft...................................End 1988
Start -1986-                3460/3416/3486 Tro Conn................................End 1990

1987 Model Year Changes

Start -1987- Bayliner 1504 Bass Trophy.............................................End 1991
Start -1987-                1500 Capri Bowrider........................................End 1990
Start -1987-                1700 Capri Bow rider........................................End 1992
Start -1987-                1702 Capri Cuddy.............................................End 1990
Start -1987-                1704 Trophy Bass Fish.....................................End 1990
Start -1987-                1710 Trophy Bass Fish.....................................End 1990
Start -1987-                1750 Capri Bowrider........................................End 1990
Start -1987-                1950 Capri Bow rider.......................................End 1989
Start -1987-                1800 04 09 10 Bass...........................................End 1989
Start -1987-                2655 Ciera S/B M/ C.........................................End 1991
Start -1987-                2950/2955 Avanti SBMC..................................End 1991
Start -1987-                3255 Avanti M/C ..............................................End 1990            

1988 Model Year Changes

Start -1988- Bayliner  2159 Trophy Cuddy..........................................End 1992
Start -1988-                2251 Cobra.........................................................End 1989
Start -1988-                2855 Ciera S/B M/C..........................................End 2000
Start -1988-                2855 Ciera Sedan CB.........................................End 1990
Start -1988-                2950/2958 Avanti Comm Bridge........................End 1991
Start -1988-                3288 SedFB MCMY...........................................End 1996
Start - 1988-               3485/3415/3450Av M/C......................................End 1990
Start -1988-                4588 Pilthse MY..................................................End 1994

1989 Model Year Changes

Start -1989- Bayliner 1770 Capri B/R  LDrive...................End 1990
Start -1989-                1970 Capri B/R................................End 1991
Start -1989-                2000 Capri BR.................................End 1994
Start -1989-                2302 Trophy WAC..........................End 1996
Start -1989-                2459 Trophy HdtpCud.....................End 1996
Start -1989-                2556 Ciera CommBridge.................End 1995
Start -1989-                2755 Ciera SB MC..........................Ends 1994

1990 Model Year Changes

Start -1990- Bayliner 1800 Capri SBR.............................................Ends 1998
Start -1990-                1802 Capri Cud.............................................Ends 1992
Start -1990-                1870 B/R Ldrive............................................Ends 1991
Start -1990-                1850 Capri LSBR..........................................End 2000
Start -1990-                2002 Capri Cudd...........................................Ends 1992
Start -1990-                2070 Capri B/R.............................................Ends 1993
Start -1990-                2050 Capri SBR............................................End 2000
Start -1990-                2052 Capri SCud..........................................End 2000
Start -1990-                2250 Capri BR/SS........................................Ends 1992
Start -1990-                2252 Capri Cuddy........................................End 1997
Start -1990-                2255 Ciera SB MC.......................................End 1994
Start -1990-                2655/2651 Ciera S/B MC 8..........................End 2000
Start -1990-                3055 Avanti SBMC......................................End 1993
Start -1990-                3555 Avanti SBMC......................................End 1995
Start -1990-                3785 Avanti SBMC......................................End 1993
Start -1990-                 4387 Aft Hdtp MY......................................End 1995

1991 Model Year Changes

Start -1991- Bayliner 1500 Trophy Sport..........................................End 1992
Start -1991-                1950 Capri Classic BR....................................End 2000
Start -1991-                1950 Capri Class Cud.....................................End 2000
Start -1991-                2352 Trophy WAC.........................................End 1996
Start -1991-                2003 Trophy CC.............................................End 1994
Start -1991-                2352 Trophy WAC.........................................End 2000
Start -1991-                2502 Trophy WAC.........................................End 1997
Start -1991-                2609 Rendezvous DK.....................................End 1999
Start -1991-                3058 Ciera Comm Bridge...............................End 1994
Start -1991-                4388 SedFBMC..............................................End 1995

1992 Model Year Changes

Start -1992- Bayliner Cobra Bass Boat..............................................End 1994
Start -1992-                1700 Capri SBR..............................................End 1998
Start -1992-                1704 Bass Boat................................................End 1993
Start -1992-                1809 Cobra Bass Boat.....................................End 1994
Start -1992-                1851 Capri SS CIBow.....................................End 2000
Start -1992-                2000 Trophy Dual Cons..................................End 1995
Start -1992-                2002 Trophy WAC..........................................End 2000
Start -1992-                2051 Capri CIDk.............................................End 1994
Start -1992-                2252 Classic Cud.............................................End 1996
Start -1992-                2059 Trophy Offshore.....................................End 1994
Start -1992-                2252 Class22Cud.............................................End 1996
Start -1992-                2452 Class24 express.......................................End 1996
Start -1992-                3688 Sed FBMCMY........................................End 1995

1993 Model Year Changes

Start -1993- Bayliner 1400 Jazz......................................................End 1996
Start -1993-                1600 Capri ClassicBR..................................End 1996
Start -1993-                1600 Capri ClassicSport...............................End 1995
Start -1993-                1750 Capri LS BR........................................End 1998
Start -1993-                1954 Capri Cl Sp Fish..................................End 2000
Start -1993-                2050 Capri SSBR.........................................End 2000
Start -1993-                2859 Super Classic.......................................End 1996
Start -1993-                3055 Ciera SBMC........................................End 1995

1994 Model Year Changes

Start -1994- Bayliner 1401 Capri LS CB.........................................End 1996
Start -1994-                1401 Reflex Closed Deck.............................End 1996
Start -1994-                1703 Trophy CC
Start -1994-                1802 Trophy Cud
Start -1994-                1850 Capri SSBR...........................................End 2000
Start -1994-                1851 CapriSS CIBow....................................End 1999
Start -1994-                2309 RendezvousDk.....................................End 1998
Start -1994-                2355 Ciera SBMC.........................................End 2000
Start -1994-                2858 Classic CB............................................End 1996
Start -1994-                4587 MY Aft Ckpt.........................................End 1996
Start -1994-                4788 Plthse

1995 Model Year Changes

Start -1995-Bayliner 1702 Capri LS Cudd.......................................End 1998
Start -1995-               1704 Capri S&F..............................................End 1998
Start  -1995-              1854 Capri F&S..............................................End 1998
Start -1995-               2003 Trophy CC.............................................End 1996
Start -1995-               2051 CapriSSCIDk.........................................End 2000
Start -1995-               2250 Capri BRSS...........................................End 1997
Start -1995-               2250 Capri LSBR...........................................End 1997
Start -1995-               2359 RendezvousDk.......................................End 1998
Start -1995-               2858 Ciera Comm Bridge
Start -1995-              2859 Ciera Exp Hdtp
Star - 1995-               3255 Avanti SBMC.........................................End 2000
Start -1995-               3258 Avanti ComBr........................................End 2000
Start -1995-               3587 MY Aft...................................................End 2000
Start -1995-               3988 MY Comm Brdge

1996 Model Year Changes

Start -1996- Bayliner 1500 Jazz........................................................End 1999
Start -1996-                1600 Capri LSBR...........................................End 1998
Start -1996-                1903 Trophy CC
Start -1996-                2180 Ski Challenger.......................................End 1997
Start -1996-                2252 Ciera Exp
Start - 1996-               2452 Ciera Exp Htdp
Start -1996-                2503 Trophy CC............................................End 2000
Start -1996-                2509 Trophy WAC........................................End 2000
Start -1996-                3388 MY CommBr
Start -1996-               3485 Avanti SBMC........................................Ends 1998
Start -1996-               3488 Avanti Comm Brdg...............................End 2000
Start -1996-               3788 MY Comm Br
Start -1996-               4087 MY Aft Ckpt

1997 Model Year Changes

Start -1997- Bayliner 1704 Quan Bass............................................End 1998
Start -1997-                1904 Quan Bass............................................End 1998
Start -1997-                2080 WakeChallengr....................................End 2000
Start  -1997-               2050 Capri ClassicBR...................................End 1999
Start -1997-                2052CapriClassicCud...................................End 2000
Start -1997-                2089 Ski Challengr........................................End 1999
Start -1997-                2109 RendezvousDk
Start -1997-                2159 Rendezvous Dk
Start -1997-                2280 Wake Challengr.....................................End 1999
Start -1997-                2350 CapriLSBR............................................End 2000
Start -1997-                2350 Capri SSBR...........................................End 2000
Start -1997-                2352 Capri LSCUD........................................End 2000
Start -1997-                2802 Trophy WAC
Start -1997-                4085 Avanti SBMC........................................End 2000

1998 Model Year Changes

Start -1989- Bayliner 1600 Capri LSV BR....................................End 1999
Start -1998-                  1750 Capri DX/LS BR
Start -1998-                  1800 Capri LSVBR.....................................End 2000
Start -1998-                  1802 Capri LSVCud....................................End 2000
Start -1998-                  1804 Capri SFBR
Start -1998-                  1850 Capri SEBR........................................End 1999
Start -1998-                  1904 Capri SF BR.......................................End 1999
Start -1998-                  2050 Capri SEBR........................................End 1999
Start -1998-                 2052 Trophy WAC.......................................End 2000
Start -1998-                 3685 Avanti SBMC......................................End 2000

1999 Model Year Changes

Start -1999- Bayliner  2409 Rendezvous Dk....................................End 2000
Start -1999-                 2459 Rendezvous Dk
Start  -1999-                 2655 Sundancer M/C....................................End 2000
Start  -1999-                 3055 Ciera SBMC........................................End 2000

2000 Model Year Changes

Start -2000- Bayliner 1600 Capri DXBR
Start -2000-                1800 Capri DXBR
Start -2000-                1802 DXCud
Start -2000-                1850 Capri DXBR
Start -2000-                1850 Capri LXBR
Start -2000-                1850 Capri LXSpBR
Start -2000-                1950 CapriBRDX
Start -2000-                1952 CapriCud DX
Start -2000-                1954 Capri SFDX
Start -2000-                2002 Trophy DX WAC
Start -2000-                2002 Trophy LX WAC
Start -2000-                2050 Capri BRDX
Start -2000-                2050 Capri BR DXS
Start -2000-                2050 Capri BR LX
Start -2000-                2050 Capri BR LXS
Start -2000-                2052 Capri CudLX
Start -2000-                2052 Capri CudDX
Start -2000-                2052 Trophy DXWAC
Start -2000-                2052 Trophy LX WAC
Start -2000-                2150 Capri BR DX
Start -2000-                2302 Trophy DX WAC
Start -2000-                2302 Trophy LX WAC
Start -2000-               2350 Capri BR DX
Start -2000-               2350 Capri BR LX
Start -2000-               2350 Capri BRLXSprt
Start -2000-               2350 Capri BR DXSprt
Start -2000-               2350 Capri Dx Cud
Start -2000-               2350 Capri LX Cud
Start -2000-               2352 Trophy DX WAC
Start -2000-               2352 Trophy LX WAC
Start -2000-               2455 Ciera DX MC
Start -2000-               2455 Ciera LX MC
Start -2000-               2509 Trophy DXWAC
Start -2000-               2509 Trophy LX WAC
Start-2000-                2655 Ciera DXMC
Start -2000-               2655 Ciera LXMC
Start -2000-               2855 Ciera DX MC
Start -2000-               2855 Ciera LXMC
Start -2000-               3055 Ciera LXMC
Start -2000-               3055 Ciera DXMC

In 1975 Bayliner was building 8 models with the largest at 30 foot and by 2000 they are building 59 with multiple variations, Boat Nut will cover the years from 2000 to 2011 in part #2.
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Hull Identification Number all you Need to Know

                                               

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HULL ID NUMBERS AND MANUFACTURERS ID CODES

Hull Identification Number

The Hull Identification Number (HIN) consists of 12 consecutive characters (capital letters of the alphabet and/or Arabic numerals) with no spaces, slashes, oblique stroke or hyphens between them. These characters are:
* A three digit Manufacturers Identification Code (MIC) followed by
* A five character manufacturers hull serial number and
* Four figures giving the date of manufacturer

Manufacturers Identification Code

The Manufacturers Identification Code (MIC) consists of three characters (block capitals or numbers) forming the first three characters of the HIN, as issued by Coast guard. It identifies the plant of manufacturer and is unique to whom it is issued.

Hull Serial Number

Characters four through eight of the HIN are the individual hull serial number which is defined by the manufacturer. No two boats are assigned the same hull serial number. The hull serial number consists of capital letters of the alphabet or Arabic numerals or both, exceptions being the letters I, O and Q, they are not used.

Characters nine through twelve of the HIN are a letter and numbers indicating the month and year of manufacture and the model year for which the boat is built. The date code of the HIN has been handled three different ways over the years (to be explained further on)

Country Code

The country Code is an optional addition to the HIN. Manufacturers of boats have the option of adding the prefix, e.g. "US-" (block capitol letters and hyphen) in front of the HIN. This is a mandatory requirement for manufacturers exporting to some countries (for example: the European Community). This is not part of the accepted mutual recognition of Hull Identification Numbers between Canada and the US.

Marking of the Hull

The HIN is permanently affixed into the hull, hull member, or on a plate so that removal of the HIN or plate would normally cause some scarring or damage to the surrounding hull area. No character of the HIN is to be less than 6 mm (1/4 inch) in height and width.

 Where  is the HIN located?
* The transom above the load water line (preferably on the upper starboard quadrant).
* The starboard side at the aft end of the hull that bears the rudder or steering mechanism, if the boat has no transom.
* The outer most starboard side of the after end of the hull, if the boat has more than one hull, and no transom.

Some manufacturers have added additional characters after the HIN separated from the HIN by a hyphen.
Three different HIN numbering systems have been used by the Coast Guard and boat manufacturers.

Numbering System 1

Most builders started using this format in Jan 1985 and is still in use.

ZZZ                                           45678                                 A                     5                  85
Manufacturers ID Code      Hull Serial Number      Month built    Year Built    Model Year

Character Nine - is a letter of the alphabet indicating the month during which construction or assembly began
Character Ten - is the last numeral of the year during which construction or assembly began
Character Eleven - are the last two numerals which represent the model year for which the boat was built.

The example above shows that Hull Number 45678 built by manufacturer identified as ZZZ was built in  JAN 1985

Jan -A        Feb -B     March -C    April - D     May -E     June -F    July -G    Aug -H    Sept -I
Oct -J        Nov -K       Dec -L

Numbering System 2

Most builders used this format from the mid 1970's until Dec 1984. However, some builders still used the previous system.

ZAA                                                      45678                                          M76E
Manufacturers ID Code                Hull Serial Number                    Month and Year

Character Nine - of the HIN is the letter "M" a spacer letter before the year
Character Ten and Eleven - are the last two numerals of the model year, which commences in Aug of the preceding calendar year.
Character Twelve - is a letter of the alphabet which indicates the month during which construction or assembly began

Using the "Model Year" option, the date of manufacture code for Dec 1975 would be displayed as M76E

Aug -A    Sept - B    Oct -C    Nov -D    Dec -E    Jan -F    Feb -G    March -H    April -I    May -J
June -K    July -L

Numbering System Number 3

Most builders use this format from the 1960's though until the mid 1970's. Some builders converted to the newer system earlier.

ZAA                                                   45678                                          1275
Manufacturers ID Code         Hull Serial Number                 Month and Year of Manufacture

Characters Nine and Ten - indicate the month of the calendar year (Jan to Dec numbered 01 to 12)
Characters Eleven and Twelve - are the last two numerals of the calendar year.
The date of manufacture is the month and year during which the construction or assembly began. Using the "Model Year" option, the date of manufacture code for Dec 1975 would be displayed as 1275.

If a HIN area is damaged a replacement code can be imprinted in the hull, the manufacturer will send a replacement HIN mold, but it must be returned (I have received them by armored car). The HIN should be inspected on any boat you have or may purchase, it must be accessible for law enforcement to inspect if you cover the HIN you must provide access to the original area. The HIN is placed in several locations on the hull and deck if you see that the number does not look factory finish you can contact the builder for more information on were to locate another HIN area so you can confirm that the boat is not stolen or being fraudulently represented. The HIN is a number you should have on hand at all times as it can be used to gather the original build information for the boat. All information that the manufacturer has on file for the boat is kept using the HIN.
No HIN, No Sale!

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Gas or Diesel, whats the better fit for you?

                                                   

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Gas or Diesel the age old question when buying a yacht?

Identical 410's

Gas- Tan Canvas (Top) Diesel- Black Canvas (Bottom)



Boat Nut Media had a chance last fall to run identical 410 Silverton Sport Bridge Yachts one with twin big block gas motors and the other with a pair of cat diesels, so what were the differences? Does it make a difference when you are puttering along or cruising long distances, the answer is it does.

 The gas boat is powered with two big block 454 ci low hour motors, and is set up virtually identical to the diesel boat. The only difference is a washer dryer in the gas boat, which is countered in the diesel boat with an automatic shore power cord system, So the weight difference is mainly in the motors themselves. However we will say the gas boat sits approximately two inches higher than the diesel boat at the water line.

Both boats were ran side by side down the lake for four hours on plain. The gas boat burnt $400.00 worth of fuel and the diesel burned approximately half of that $220.00. The boats were evenly matched for speed as a matter of fact the diesel boat could out run the gas boat if you pushed the throttle down and let the boats go. Why is this ? Well the gas boats props are at least 3 inches smaller in diameter, and the shafts on the diesel are a half an inch larger. This makes for a much smoother ride in the diesel as the running gear is larger you just do not feel like you are pushing the diesel hard at all. The diesel motors run at least 1700 RPM less at high speed than the gas motors.

I must say the extra weight of the diesel motors make the ride very stable overall, boat movement is reduced. The gas boat has more transom lift this would be due to weight and the extended RPM range this 1700 RPM is translated into more water at higher speed passing the props thus creating more transom lift. Transom lift creates more roll from front to back in the gas boat than the diesel boat. The diesel boat just punches a big hole through the water it provides the same bow rise it just squats in the water at the aft. Thus creating a much larger wake out the back

When departing the dock the diesel has substantially more push and more positive low speed control by the shifter's, this is directly related to the size of the props. Idle speed is also much faster with the diesel for the same reason, there is a larger volume of water passing the diesel boats props. The gas boat is also very manageable as well, but the reaction time from shift to movement is much tamer and slower. The gas boat will require more corrections for side wind or current. The first time you shift the diesel you may feel a little intimidated as it moves right away and quick. Neither one of these boats are equipped with thrusters so all docking moves must be made with the motors. When docking the gas boats gives you more reaction time to prepare for movement which can be a real plus for first time boaters, however this can bite you if you have an off the dock wind or current. At an idle at the dock the diesel can be dirty and smelly, as a matter of fact other boaters were not happy with long term idling . This though was partly due to the diesel motors requiring a general service. Although even with optimum fuel burn a diesel is a smelly proposition backed into the dock. This becomes worse in a diesel if you have the generator running also. On this model boat running the generator would probably all but eliminate the ability of sitting in the back cockpit or keeping the large sliding door open. A real draw back while at anchor. The gas does not seem to have this same effect on the usage of the aft deck or cabin door.

When it comes to service these two boats are likely very close in maintenance costs, however if you had a starter or alternator go out the diesel, it would punch a hole in your wallet. Serious breakdowns will cost more with a diesel. Do not let this sway your decision making if a diesel receives regular run hours and correct maintenance then they will out last the gas motors two to one. The other upside to a diesel is there are less mechanical items to fail you there are no spark plugs no wires and no ignition system.

I believe that the choice between gas and diesel comes down to running hours and and what performance you are looking for in a larger boat. A gas boat is ideal if you are not putting on a lot of hours and not going far, in other words a floating cottage. If you had a diesel in these conditions it would cost you more to keep it running, diesels need to run they do not do well sitting around they are more difficult to get running if they do not see time then gas engines. If you are an avid traveler and cruise your boat all the time and like to go distances than buy a diesel the fuel burn rate will give you extended range and they love to run under load for days at a time. You have to take a look at how you are going to use the boat, access to fuel, the cost of fuel, can you get service on a reliable basis and how fast you want to get there, I must say a good diesel turbo set up will blow the doors of a gas boat the same size all day. The last benefit to a diesel is they do not seem to care what you load on your boat they seem to perform pretty much the same way with or without the tender and all your gear on board, where you will surely notice the difference with gas motors they just do not develop he same torque, and torque is push!

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Bayliner Boat whats in a name?

                                                 

 

BAYLINER  whats in the name? A key player in bringing boating to the masses!

                                                         

Bayliner a boat manufacturer name who has taken a beating with boaters, these boaters who attack the Bayliner brand obviously have no idea of the history and relationship that this brand has played in the power boat industry since the late 1980's. Bayliner Boats of Arlington Washington was in the late eighties the cornerstone of the pleasure boat industry in North America and around the world. Bayliner had factories in Washington state, Minnesota, Georgia, and Florida. They developed the brands we know such as Bayliner, Maxum, Trophy, Robalo, and Meridian. They were behind advancements such as the Jazz and Reflex (jet boats), the first all curved deck small cruiser the 27 Cierra, and some classic yachts like the 3288, 3888, and 4288 these yachts were great designs and would take unbelievable punishment. Since all these yachts where developed and tested in the Pacific North West, and I do not mean just on the nice days.

They have been copied by companies like Campion Marine, Mainship Yachts, Sea ray and a whole host of smaller boat builders around the world. Bayliner had test areas in the Nevada Desert for upholstery deterioration and in the San Jaun Islands for hull design testing. They were responsible for technology that trickled over to Baja, Sea Ray Wahoo and many other boat builders who were under the Brunswick umbrella. The main office for what is now the Brunswick Boat Group, formerly US Marine was located at a Bayliner factory. Bayliner was the first boat builder to be purchased by Brunswick this lit a race between OMC and Brunswick to buy up boat manufacturers. This is because they were the largest pleasure boat builder in the world at the time and were close to a deal with OMC. Buying Bayliner would mean control over who provided the engine packages, which meant that lots of Mercury product would be placed in the market. Bayliner even built the Buccaneer sail boat, they made it all over their prime years of production. The Arlington factory had one of the first 3D milling machines to create molds, and they did, even for Sea Ray. The Arlington Bayliner factory also had full size test tanks (swimming pools) where they did sink tests for several Brunswick Companies. Bayliner could easily have been the Sea Ray we know today, so what happened to the one time largest builder with the one time largest dealers in the world.

Well first off in the late eighties they built so many boats that the completed inventory ended up stored with covered in shrink wrap, for those who use shrink wrap this will be a valuable lesson for you, under the plastic the wood structure began to rot, which is exactly what all boats do if you leave the plastic cover on for more time than absolutely necessary. When these boats made it to market they had a lot of issues,  these were generally the small runabouts, and this was before inner liner boats. The floors were going bad almost immediately and this was the first bad reputation that Bayliner suffered.

Bayliner became the test company for Brunswick and because of this many models came and went, The problem with being the test ground is that the bugs are ironed out with Bayliner brand name. However their core models were great the Yachts, Cruisers and Runabouts. Even with the core group of boats Brunswick still managed to muck about and Bayliner's ended up with the Force Outboard Motors. This was when Brunswick bought the Chrysler Outboard motor company. these motors were junk and every one knew it but they took these out of date motors and stuck them on Bayliners, another hit to the reputation.

Bayliner Yachts had to experiment with different motor combinations like Hino Desiels, not good they were smokers and the non turbo engines were gutless. After these flubs Brunswick went on to use Bayliner as the main test ground for engine package combinations to improve fuel burn and costs, and guess what? Bayliner then got the wrap for horribly under powered boats, the next nail.

Bayliner started to get a reputation as a low entry level boat brand, and boaters started to pick on the brand. At this time Brunswick started to splinter the line and broke off  Robalo and Trophy. Wound down the Maxum brand, Brunswick did not need to have a competing brand to Sea Ray. In the end Bayliner became a dumping ground for yesterdays technology motors from Mercury Marine. Bayliner started to slip even more. Now Brunswick after messing around with the brand decided to rename Bayliner Yachts as Meridians. Then Bayliner started to die. A Sad Day in the Marine Industry!

I get a charge out of the boaters who own a Maxum, and beat up Bayliner! They are the same boats built in the same factories using the same materials, Bayliner and Sea Ray also share the same DNA, Bayliner's are not bad boats at all, believe me there are really crappy boats out there, much worse by far. The difference between a Sea Ray and a Bayliner in some model years are the finishes and the hardware, If you look at a Baliner and Sea Ray side by side you will notice this immediately. So Bayliner owners stand up for your brand, every other boat in the market owes something to Bayliner. If your on the west coast you will not hear the kind of mudslinging we hear in Ontario, If the brand was so bad how come there are so many around? In a lot of ways they were the every mans boat and that is ok with me. I was excited to see a resurgence in the brand at this years Toronto Boat Show. I would love to see another new Bayliner Motor Yacht, but that may never happen Brunswick today builds to many models and now that they have converted the Hatteras brand into big Sea Rays, I do not think there will ever be a Bayliner Yacht Market again.

Bayliner built some great boats and still do, Please do not listen to the haters. I sure hope they find their way back to larger boats. Bayliner owners were the original BOAT NUTS!!!!!!!


                                                               

Pictures from Bayliner

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